JD, He kind of blew me away, like he knew I couldn't afford it so he didn't want to bother with a price. He said now this isn't going to be any 60 cent a pound steel, it will be more like 6 bucks a pound depending on the mix. Right off the top of my head W-2 hasn't got but maybe two alloys carbon and something else that makes it much better the W-l. I'm sure having it turned into barstock would be pricey also. I'll just stick with whats already out there. I've got enough steel now that will most likly out last me any way.......Ray