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What are you using to grind? Do you have a torch? There is a third option for you. A good high quality file is already heat treated so that takes out that part other than a trip in the oven to reduce the hardness to whats needed for a knife. You just have to grind them in the hardened state and keep them cool.
After that if you are heat treating yourself L-6 or 15n20 are going to be very forgiving also 1084. I'm not even listing 5160 because I don't think you can get some that's already run thin, most of the time it's sold in thicker sections for forging. The other steels should be left for a heat treater. I wouldn't suggest messing with them yet. What site are you using, Admiral is cheap but their stuff doesn't come annealed. For the stock removal guy that means headaches. |
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It's not a matter of what I would pick, its what you can get a good heat treat on. You're trying so hard to cut corners you're shooting yourself in the foot as the old saying goes. Some of those steels are cheap to buy but might be expensive to HT. If the site you're ordering from only has 1095 then try another site. There is a Sticky at the top of the forum listing sources for 1084. Get 1084 if you will HT it yourself, otherwise get the 440C as it can be had in any size for reasonable cost and it can be HTed for less than just about anything else if you plan to send it out.....
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Now that the coffee can forge is all dried out i can get steel to non-magnetic easily. I am also going to be building a larger forge out of a barrel and ill be using a 20lb tank and weed burner to power it. Or the burner from my deep fryer, not sure yet lol. |
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Why are you building a larger forge if you can already get a blade to non-mag? If you do need to build a larger forge don't build it much larger as the cost of building it, fueling it, the time it takes to heat it, etc all get larger with it. Unless you plan to forge something larger than a blade you don't need a huge forge.
So, you can now reach non-mag and that's good. Next trick, you need to learn when you have reached non-mag without going more than 100 degrees beyond .... |
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I should have included more detail, i can get SMALL knives to non-magnetic but the coffee can forge is so small that anything over 4 inches or so doesnt fit! So i want to build the larger forge so that i can make larger knives and also melt my cans into liquid for ingots. |
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Ingots? Interesting. What for?
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to sell, i sell the cans to a recycling center and lugging 8+ bags of cans is annoying to say the least, this way i can just take ingots out and sell them.
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Clever. Hopefully you'll be doing this in a very well ventilated area. Tin cans contain zinc if I'm not mistaken. Heated zinc creates a gas that you definitely do not want to be breathing...
Last edited by Ray Rogers; 09-04-2015 at 12:53 PM. |
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Oh yes garage with big and little doors open no worries, my problem now is if i want to use my 150,000 btu gas burner to fire it or do i buy one of the big weed burners to fire it, i can get the weed burner for like 23 bucks.
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how much do you get per. lb for the cans?
you can knock off probably 75% of that by spending the time and propane melting them. why mot just stomp on the can to make it flat.... toss it in a bag... move on to spending time practicing knife work. |
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Toss in cost of transport and time involved......not going to break even.
But, if you just got to do it go ahead. __________________ Carl Rechsteiner, Bladesmith Georgia Custom Knifemakers Guild, Charter Member Knifemakers Guild, voting member Registered Master Artist - GA Council for the Arts C Rex Custom Knives Blade Show Table 6-H |
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Either way still want to build a bigger forge lol
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