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1911 Gov't Model..."Barbeque Gun"
...or court gun...or sunday-go-to-meetin' gun!...
A customers personal shooter that he intends to dress up with some nice mammoth ivory grips. (Wish I had them for the photos!) Thanks for looking. Tim Posted by: Tim Adlam TexasJack Elite Member Registered: Apr 2004 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 182 Nice job - very clean!!! Did you do the engraving? Had dinner one night with some folks my wife worked with. The husband was ex-Navy and brought out his engraved 1911 to show me. He dropped it off somewhere in the Far East (years ago) and left it for 9 months before he made it back to that port. I think he said the engraver charged him $20. Did it all by hand and it was amazing to see. Mammoth ivory grips? C'mon, if you try I'll be the customer will let you post the finished product!! __________________ Texas is heaven for dogs and men, But hell on women and oxen. 05-19-2004 12:38 PM Tim Adlam Moderator Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Posts: 1016 Thanks Rick,...yep, I'm responsible for the damage! The finish is Carbonia blue by Paul Lippold. Paul has the Colt contract for the WW1 model 1911's that are on the market right now. His finish beat the competition hands down and is as close to the original Colt process as you can get. We live approx. 20 min. apart and work together on many projects. Can't say as I'll have a chance to get pictures with ivory grips...Oklahoma is a far piece from Wisconsin. $20 bucks for a 1911 job?...I'm glad those "Dark Ages" are gone!... __________________ Last edited by Tim Adlam on 05-19-2004 at 10:22 PM 05-19-2004 01:16 PM TexasJack Elite Member Registered: Apr 2004 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 182 Well, $20 was big money in that country (at that time). (The engraver's grandchildren probably own an electronics firm worth billions now.) I don't think there was a square inch of the gun not engraved - and it was deep! I don't recall the finish being very nice. I love seeing good engraving, but wish I knew more about the techniques. Do you anneal the frame and receiver before engraving? Is the gold inlay on the top and bottom of the gun gold leaf? __________________ Texas is heaven for dogs and men, But hell on women and oxen. 05-19-2004 02:34 PM Joe Mason Leading Member Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Brandon, Mississippi Posts: 241 WOW, nice job Tim. I really like what you did to the Series 70. Nice gun. Joe __________________ 05-19-2004 06:03 PM Tim Adlam Moderator Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Posts: 1016 This slide was harder than the older 1911's. No problem with the frame. The inlay is 24k gold wire. The client required a positive gripping surface on the frame. A relief panel was the most obvious choice. I decided to carry the relief engraving to the slide in order to balance that element on the gun. The inlay idea was my suggestion, and I like what it adds to the piece. I used line-engraved scroll to fill out here and there...this helped to stay within the budget. The two-tone effect in the picture is the result of getting the angle of light just so. Otherwise the look is all blue. Tim __________________ 05-19-2004 07:09 PM Chuck Burrows Moderator aka "Wild Rose" Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Durango, Co Posts: 2665 Tim - Great Work Bro! I love 1911's almost as much as SAAs and uncle Elmer's favorite 4" M29 - and engraving like that is not just "gilding the lily" (uncle Elmer always had his "keepers" engraved and ivory gripped - if you ever get to Salmon, ID check out the EK museum) P.S. I've been working on a Texas Bar-B-Q style holster (and matching belt) for a few of the classics - 1911, SAA, S & W M29 - maybe we ought to get together and bounce some ideas around. I kinda got the holsters figured for a 1911 based on one of the Ranger's of the 1920-30's favorites and another based on the old George Lawrence Co's, Keith rig for the M29 and SAA - but IMO two heads are better than one! __________________ Chuck Burrows Hand Crafted Leather & Frontier Knives dba Wild Rose Trading Co PO Box 5174, Durango, CO 81301 chuck@wrtcleather.com www.wrtcleather.com I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire The beautiful sheaths created for storing the knife elevate the knife one step higher. It celebrates the knife it houses. Got a question? Click here to - - for an answer? 05-19-2004 07:53 PM Jim Small Moderator Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, Ga Posts: 226 Tim Just plain awesome?. Very nicely done. The style of engraving is just the right choice for this firearm. This happens to be one of my favorite firearms to engrave. This old hard-baller has plenty of engraving space and affords you the right conditions to just let go. You did a great job. I know your customer will be well pleased. I hope Chuck lets us see one of those holsters he's working on?What about it Chuck? Jim 05-19-2004 08:35 PM Chuck Burrows Moderator aka "Wild Rose" Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Durango, Co Posts: 2665 Howdy Jim - So far I'm only in the pattern stage ("life" keeps getting in the way ) Still I need to make one up and send off to gun scribe John Taffin since he was so kind to send me original holsters from his collection that I was able to get the basic patterns from - the main difference between mine and the originals and the thing IMO that will make them "unique" - is I will use my "gun engraving" style carving on them rather than the traditional style carving. __________________ Chuck Burrows Hand Crafted Leather & Frontier Knives dba Wild Rose Trading Co PO Box 5174, Durango, CO 81301 chuck@wrtcleather.com www.wrtcleather.com I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire The beautiful sheaths created for storing the knife elevate the knife one step higher. It celebrates the knife it houses. Got a question? Click here to - - for an answer? 05-19-2004 09:07 PM Darren Hand Engraver Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 348 TIM !! NICE ONE !! Like the other guys this is one of my favorites as well. the old 1911's they look just so cool when there engraved up real nice like this one is. Your customer will be very pleased. Darren __________________ Darren P. Reeves Custom Hand Engraving 1702 First Ave. N. Billings, Montana 59101 406-245-3444 05-19-2004 09:42 PM Chuck Burrows Moderator aka "Wild Rose" Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Durango, Co Posts: 2665 OOPS gorgot (sorry my mind is elswhere the last couple of days...) The engraving on the front strap is WAYYYYYY cooler than checkering or stippling and will do the same job - VERY nice touch! __________________ Chuck Burrows Hand Crafted Leather & Frontier Knives dba Wild Rose Trading Co PO Box 5174, Durango, CO 81301 chuck@wrtcleather.com www.wrtcleather.com Thanks for the comments! Chuck...Any time you want to brainstorm a project idea let me know. Actually I have one brewing as a result of this one. Presently at the research stage and it'll probably take me 3+ years to complete. The 1911 has so much history and such a dedicated following that it will always remain on my top 10 list. Here's the best shot I have of that grip panel. __________________ [B][URL="http://www.adlamengraving.com"]http://www.adlamengraving.com[/URL][/B] Last edited by Tim Adlam; 06-20-2004 at 03:01 PM. |
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Leading Member Registered: Nov 2002 Location: Uvalde, Texas Posts: 842 Tim, that's just beautiful work! Keep 'em coming! __________________ Robert Hensarling Uvalde, Texas "Don't accept something when you know it's not right. " Terry Primos "do what you like and like what you do, happiness is better than riches = but they can work together" Ron Claiborne (Bowie) 05-20-2004 07:45 AM Jeremy Krammes Leading Member Registered: Feb 2003 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 276 Great work Tim. I see so many 1911's that are just goady, but this one is just right. Beautiful work!!! Chuck: Do you know Mr Taffin? I love his writings, he seems like a great guy. Jeremy __________________ Don't Tread on Me!!! 05-20-2004 08:25 AM ron p. nott Leading Member Registered: Jun 2002 Location: sunnerdale pa Posts: 648 Hi Tim ..Great job on that 1911. I am working on one for about 2 yrs now some day I will get it finished ..I will bring it to Atlanta for you to see ..keep up the good work .. __________________ ron p. nott Ray Cover Jr Elite Member Registered: Apr 2004 Location: Posts: 120 Looks good Tim, Customer should be very happy ewith it. It will really be a show off piece when the guy gets the ivory grips on it. Ray __________________ Fine Art Engraving rcoverengraving.com ray@rcoverengraving.com 05-21-2004 09:16 AM TexasJack Elite Member Registered: Apr 2004 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 182 This thread is the first - and only - time that I have heard of barbeque (or Bar-B-Q) used as an adjective describing a gun or holster. As we hold barbeque in high regard - nearly sacred - in Texas, I assume this is a complementary term. I asked a friend of mine if he'd heard the term before. He replied that he hadn't, but he figured it probably meant the gun you use to shoot a hog. __________________ Texas is heaven for dogs and men, But hell on women and oxen. 05-21-2004 09:35 AM Chuck Burrows Moderator aka "Wild Rose" Registered: Sep 2002 Location: Durango, Co Posts: 2665 Jack- Don't remember exactly for sure, but I believe the term Bar-B-Q gun holster, etc. was first used by gun writer Sheriff Jim Wilson, a Texan by birth and inclination. In use it means an extra fancy show off piece - aka kind of in the vein of a "Sunday go to Meeting" rig - so it is definitely a complimentary term. quote:Chuck: Do you know Mr Taffin? I love his writings, he seems like a great guy. Jeremy yes and yes - John is one of the good ones. He along with Mike Venturino, Ross Seyfried, and the previously mentioned Sheriff Jim are top four favorite gun writers - of course like me they all like old guns and big bores so..... Tim - Got some personal things going on right now that are taking up most of my time and energy but as soon as I get them settled I'll definitely give you a shout and we can see about doing something in this vein. (Hmmmm wonder if JT - has a gun he'd like engraved and holstered? might be a thought there - he loves good engraving and fancy holsters....) __________________ Chuck Burrows Hand Crafted Leather & Frontier Knives dba Wild Rose Trading Co PO Box 5174, Durango, CO 81301 chuck@wrtcleather.com www.wrtcleather.com __________________ [B][URL="http://www.adlamengraving.com"]http://www.adlamengraving.com[/URL][/B] Last edited by Tim Adlam; 06-20-2004 at 03:02 PM. |
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